Donald Jeffries – Who’s buried in John Wilkes Booth Grave?

Donald Jeffries JFK assassination researcher since the mid-1970s. His first novel, “The Unreals,” was published in 2007. His first nonfiction book, “Hidden History: An Expose of Modern Crimes, Conspiracies, and Cover-Ups in American Politics,” 2014.  Second nonfiction book, “Survival of the Richest”  July 2017.  His next book, “Crimes and Cover Ups in American Politics: 1776-1963” will be released in May 2019.


John:                     Good morning, America. This is the CATS Roundtable. John Catsimatidis here. Sunday morning, and you let our minds wander. With us this morning is Donald Jeffries, a historian, a Norther. He has written books. He started in the 1970s, about JFK, and his latest book is Crimes and Cover-Ups in American History of 1776 to 1963. It’ll be on the shelves May 7th. Good morning, Donald. How are you?

Donald:                Fine, thanks for having me.

John:                     Tell the American people the biggest coverups that you have discovered between 1776 and 1963.

Donald:                Well, as I described in my earlier book, I look at it kind of as an ongoing timeline of organized corruption. People tell me, “You think everything’s a conspiracy.” Well, I think we’re being run by conspirators. This is how they operate. It’s standard operating procedure for them. I think the most important part of the book probably is the War Between the States, what we call the Civil War, because I think that had the greatest impact on us. And we still see the impact today. We see the way the country is breaking down between the Trump haters and the Trump lovers at this point, because he’s kind of a lightning rod. But there’s that cultural divide that I think began with the War Between the States and the fact that, as we noted earlier, history is written by the victors.

Donald:                There’s no greater example of that than the Civil War, because during the war Abraham Lincoln was despised by even many people in the north. And he threw untold thousands of people in the north in makeshift prisons. He suspended the writ of habeas corpus. He shut down untold numbers of newspapers. He was arresting people at church, arresting people in the middle of the night. Unbelievable tyranny. And yet, because they won, his side won, he defeated a smaller fellow. Because that fellow’s associated with slavery, that’s why it doesn’t get more sympathy, the Confederacy doesn’t, with the general public because of that. He became our secular saint and the figurehead of the American civilization. I think that’s terribly unfortunate because he didn’t have a great record when you examine it critically. Again, he’s nice sometimes, nice poetry. The Gettysburg address is beautiful poetry, but as H.L. Mencken and other leftists like myself said at the time, it was absurd because nothing could be more untrue than that Lincoln and his troops were fighting for the government of the people, by the people and for the people.

Donald:                In fact, they were trying to stop another group who was trying to do that. I think that’s a microcosm of how we are today, because we’re looking at something like that and it’s 1984. It’s history being rewritten, unfortunate facts thrown down the memory hole. That’s just one example, but I think we still see, because of the precedence that Abraham Lincoln set, for the imperial presidency where he overstepped his constitutional bounds over and over again. Presidents since then, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, down to George W. Bush, with the treatment of the torture and stuff at Guantanamo Bay. All that was used because of precedence that dated back to Abraham Lincoln and things he did when he violated the oath of office. The 15 presidents before him had no idea to even attempt anything like that, so he’s considered the greatest. And maybe he is in the eyes of the people that have taken hold of this country and are driving it into the ground.

John:                     Now, the other thing in your book about John Wilkes Booth, who supposedly killed and shot President Lincoln, that did he shoot him, but he’s not really buried? Or he went on to live a different life? Tell America about that.

Donald:                Yeah, well, I have a lot about the Lincoln assassination. Ironically, the fact that court historians cover up all of Lincoln’s tyranny and his crimes against the people, his violation of the constitution, they have covered up his assassination and have not told the truth about that at all. I believe it was an inside job. I believe it was a conspiracy probably orchestrated by secretary of war, Edwin Stanton. These people actually believed that Lincoln, who was very much a radical republican, was not radical enough for their taste. But yeah, John Wilkes Booth, I don’t think there’s any question he shot the actual shot that killed Abraham Lincoln.

Donald:                Most people believe that there’s a great deal of doubt, and I describe it all in the book, about who was actually buried in that grave in Green Mount Cemetery in Baltimore. During the course of writing this book, I’ve talked to his great, great, great, great, great niece. Because he didn’t have any biological children that we know of, they’re still trying to get that body exhumed to try to solve the historical mystery, because they have DNA now. They can do it. The government, the park service, things like that, they’re blocking that. That’s very strange, because as I point out in the book, almost always the protocol is that if a family wants a body exhumed, it gets exhumed and in the case of-

John:                     Now what you’re saying is the government in 2019 or 2018, is still blocking the ability for the family to exhume John Wilkes Booth’s body and to find the true DNA?

Donald:                Exactly. What other conclusion can you come to, than they’re covering something up? Obviously, people in 2019, there’s nobody left that conspired to kill Abraham Lincoln, but again it’s the court historians and the narrative. The narrative is a timeline, and they’re so vested in these false narratives that, think of all the … because there were a couple books. There was a guy named Finis Bates that wrote a book back in the day that postulated that John Wilkes Booth went on to live a life under a name of John St. Helen. I think he died around 1900, something like that. They even had a mummified body of John Wilkes Booth that toured the country for a while supposedly.

Donald:                But they poo-pooed these theories. They smeared these guys over the years that said these things. If nothing else, the court historians are incredibly arrogant. They’re not going to admit they’re wrong about anything. They’re not going to, even though they’re descendants of the court historians that began smearing these critics, they still have the same mindset. They have the vested interest in these cover stories going back to Meriwether Lewis even, 50 years before that. I’m just trying to expose the truth. If they’re not covering up anything, but we see this all the way to the JFK assassination or any more recent example. When evidence-

John:                     JFK. President Trump was pro, pro, pro releasing the real Warren report, and then three hours before he was going to release it, he did not release it. What is in there that’s so sensitive that President Trump said, “I’m not releasing it”?

Donald:                Well, I don’t think there’s any kind of smoking gun in there. I think those of us who have investigated understand that their official story is absurd and that high-level forces within the United States government killed President Kennedy. There’s no question about that. I studied this for 40 years. But why Trump did that still, there’s just such a compulsion on the part of the intelligence agencies and the court historians, the entire establishment. The mainstream media. There’s a compulsion and instinct. You have to cover up, conceal, cite national security. And that’s why it just makes them look even guiltier than they are, and Trump has proven to be a puppet of these same forces because he does talk a good game. He talks a great game. He’s always talking bold on Twitter. He’s going to do this and going to do that, but as in the case of the JFK assassination files, he capitulated to the intelligence agencies. He’s done that over and over again, but it’s unfortunate.

Donald:                Something like you could maybe make a semi-argument that something with the JFK assassination is kind of connected somehow to national security today. I don’t believe so, and certainly not if there was a lone minimum wage worker that wasn’t connected to intelligence that killed him. That argument goes down the drain. But to say anything related to the burial of John Wilkes Booth in 1865 is somehow still related to national security, or there’s a reason to not have that done at the family’s request, I think is absurd. Everybody ought to see through that.

John:                     We got time. We have two minutes left. We got time for one more. What is another big item in your book that you think people will enjoy reading?

Donald:                It’s going to cause a lot of controversy. I went into the Allied war atrocities, the bombing of Dresden, things like that, that again people don’t talk about. I talked about Joe McCarthy. I think Joe McCarthy has been largely vindicated now, but I also talk about the Rosenbergs, where I think they were scapegoats. I think they were executed for crimes they probably didn’t commit. This is why people can’t figure me out, because it’s hard to come up and defend Joe McCarthy and Julius and Ethel Rosenberg in the same book. I managed to do that. I look at things independently. I think Americans are largely historically illiterate, and I have a large section on the Lindbergh kidnapping. It’s always been a subject of interest to me. I think Richard Hauptmann, I believe he was definitely the executed and innocent man there, and I think the entire system conspired to do that. I go into great detail. They doctored his time card, things like that.

Donald:                And the system again, that prosecutor did it. Decades later, he lived a long life, he was still lying and trying to manipulate things because again he didn’t want to admit what he did to an innocent man. They’re so vested. We see today somebody like Clint Hill, the last surviving Secret Service agent that was in JFK’s detail in Dealey Plaza that didn’t do his job. He has now changed to where he’s trying to vindicate, make himself a hero for not doing his job, for standing down and letting JFK get assassinated. They’re all vindicated and apparently, there’s no death bed confessions, or they don’t seem to feel any guilt at the end.

John:                     Donald, let’s tell everybody. The name of your book again is Crimes and Cover-Ups in American Politics: 1976 to 1963. It hits the bookshelves May 7th. The author is yourself, Donald Jeffries. I guess you can buy it at Amazon or Barnes and Noble.

Donald:                Yes, and I’m proud also, Rand Paul is writing the foreword, so that’s a great thing. I think that will help a lot and hopefully, people will find that. Very, very much honored, because I’ve always admired him.

John:                     Donald Jeffries, thank you for coming on our show this morning, and I look forward to reading the entire book. We’ll catch up with you again real soon.

Donald:                Thanks for having me. Thank you.

John:                     Thank you. This is the CATS Roundtable. I’ll be right back.


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