Alejandro Rojas is Director of Operations for Open Minds Production, the host for Open Minds UFO Radio, editor and contributing writer for OpenMinds.tv, and emcee for the International UFO Congress. As a UFO/Paranormal researcher and journalist, Alejandro has spent many hours in the field investigating anomalous phenomena up close and personal. For several years Alejandro was the official spokesperson for the Mutual UFO Network as the Director of Public Education.
John C.: Good morning America. This is the CATS Roundtable. John Catsimatidis here. And like other Sunday mornings, we let our mind wander. And everybody knows I like to wander in outer space. I love to know what the truth is. With us this morning is Alejandro Rojas. And Alejandro Rojas is a radio talk host and there’s a show, Open Minds Radio. And he’s editor and contributing writer for Open Minds Magazine, which monitors credible UFO news and information. Good morning, Alejandro. How are you this morning?
Alejandro Rojas: Good morning. I’m doing very well. Thank you.
John C.: Alejandro, ever since I’ve been a Star Trek fan all my life and I’ve always wondered… I let my mind wander. Last week, the navy put out new guidelines. Tell all of America about those guidelines.
Alejandro Rojas: Yeah. This is really exciting. We don’t know the exact details of those guideline because they’re keeping those secret. They say there are some sources and methods they have to protect that’s classified. However, they did announce that they are creating, or they have created new U.F.O guidelines. And the reason they said they did this was because they were receiving credible reports of sightings of unusual aircraft of which one of those sightings, and one that was a big inspiration for them, we’ve been seeing a lot of that. We’ve been seeing these witnesses who were FAT pilots for the navy who had this encounter in 2004 outside of San Diego. They were part of the USS Nimitz Strike Group and the commander of the group essentially chased this object that was about 40 feet large that he said looked like a giant Tic Tac.
Alejandro Rojas: It was white, no windows, smooth exterior ,and shaped like a Tic Tac. And that, good thing, demonstrated some incredible maneuvers and sped off at an amazing speed. So that along with… we also had news just about a year and a half ago of this Pentagon program that apparently has been going on since 2007 to look into UFOs. The guy who runs that program, who’s joined this organization with some other intelligence people, and Tom DeLonge, the Rockstar, and they have been behind the scenes working their connections to get these witnesses in front of legislators and in front of leadership in the military. And they say that they really made a lot of groundwork in that unit. That’s what inspired this whole navy policy to essentially take UFO seriously.
John C.: Well, I was good friends with a three star admiral many years ago and he was in charge of the north atlantic. And he admitted to me he saw things. I remember him pointing to his hand. He says, “I’ve never seen skin, but we have encountered things that were beyond belief.” And there’s something out there that we don’t know or I don’t know well how much our government knows. But I’ve always been a fan of disclosure. Do you think they’ll ever be disclosure?
Alejandro Rojas: Well, that’s a hard one. In a way, we kind of have disclosure. We have the fact that this Pentagon program existed and the gentleman who ran it says, “We have real incidents here of unknown objects.” So in a way at least he disclosed his program and what he’s been doing. But what many industry insiders… John Alexander for example, is a retired colonel. He worked as an inspector general and he has an interest in this topic, and he’s researched it, and he says, “The issue is there are many different departments when it comes to the governments and everything’s stove pipe.” So with the Pentagon knows, this program we learned about doesn’t necessarily mean that there’s not another air force program or another navy programs that’s going on that the Pentagon might not have known about or at least this particular program, because not all of these programs are clear to share information with each other.
Alejandro Rojas: So it’s so stove pipe that there could be little bashed tons of information here and there. We may never hear about all of them and that we’ve only heard about one so far. So full disclosure of everything that is known, I don’t think we’ll ever get that. But I think we will, especially in the near term, get more and more information as it seems they’re opening up to the idea of taking UFO seriously and sharing more information with the public.
John C.: How long have you been doing this?
Alejandro Rojas: I’ve been doing this for a couple of decades now.
John C.: What is the most credible encounter that you can disclose to our audience?
Alejandro Rojas: I would probably say this 2004 encounter at this point is the most credible. Prior to that I would have said, the Rendlesham forest incident, which was based in the UK that was unleashed to the Americans, the American air force. Well, they had a sighting where a couple of security officers actually went out to the forest outside of the base and encountered this object that had been seen, these lights were seen around the base. One of these guys there had actually walked up on the object and it was a six foot long triangular shaped object. After a little while after he circled it and took notes, it hovered up at about tree level and took off. Well, the deputy base commander thought, “Oh no, that couldn’t have been… ” This guy had to have it wrong. He must’ve mistook what he saw.
Alejandro Rojas: A couple of nights later it happened again, so the base commander said, “Okay, I’m going to go figure this out.” Deputy base commander, Colonel Halt, is his name. And so he took a bunch of guys. They went out there, they recorded the encounter, they saw this light that beamed a light into the weapons storage area, which secretly we have a nuclear weapons there. This light then came towards them and beamed a beam of light right at their feet before taking off. They saw another larger light that broke off into seven pieces and then all those seven pieces took off at an incredible speed. So that was a really good case with lots of credible military witnesses. And the Colonel Halt who eventually became the base commander, he’s been out and talking about that quite a bit. So that’s another really good case with credible military witnesses.
John C.: Alejandro, thank you for coming on the show with us and we can definitely say there’s something more than we know and hopefully in the near future we’ll all find out more. And again, thank you for coming on.
Alejandro Rojas: All right. Thank you. My pleasure.
John C.: This is the CATS Roundtable. We’ll be right back.
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