Mayor Adams in South America. Will it stem the tide?

0:00 Speaker 1 With us today is former Governor David Pattison, and he has some things to say about what’s going on in our city or state, our country. Governor Patterson, what’s going on.

0:13 Speaker 2 And even outside our country? This morning, John, we have a Mayor Eric Adams of New York City going to four countries south of the border, started with Mexico, and there he’s advising immigrants not to come to the country.

0:33 But you know, when you’re trying to negotiate that you have to be bringing something, And I don’t know what he’s bringing them to not come to the country when the opportunity for them to come to the country is there at this particular time in the droves that we’re feeling in the cities all around this country.

0:51 Speaker 1 Now.

0:51 Speaker 2 Meanwhile, the same day that he departed, President Biden now is talking about strengthening the borders and some of the things that I kind of thought he would have done after the mid term election. That’s when President Clinton turned his drooping pull numbers around in nineteen ninety five, and by nineteen ninety six President Clinton won going away against

1:14 Senator Robert Dole. But to do this now, I don’t know what the political implication of it is, but it does open the door now for what a lot of Senators and congress members have been talking about in Congress.

1:32 And a congresswoman from Florida, Maria Alvira Salazar, she said on Thursday that really, in the end, the administration is not even the source of the problem, that it’s Congress itself. But they’ve got to sit down and work out some agreements.

1:50 And when asked if she’s going to talk to Steve Scalisa Jim Jordan, the two Congress members who are fighting to become speaker, she said that she’s going to bring these issues to their attention. But she said that the Republican Party has to be responsible. It’s just not about blaming the Democrats or saying that this latest Biden move

2:10 as a political stunt, which he said it is, but that’s it inadvertently opens the door for more conversation down there. So that’s kind of an interesting situation to address as well. And so it’s been a pretty exciting week in the world of politics.

2:29 Speaker 1 Governor is in my imagination, but the interview I did with President Bill Clinton last week, and he came up with some common sense solutions that some of that leadership was followed by some of the Democratic Party on Monday and Tuesday.

2:47 Speaker 2 Well, he is, and I think people from both parties respect the fact that he’s an incredible thinker. He’s a he’s a and he’s a strategic thinker, and he comes up with ways to make things work. As I pointed out before he was dead to rights, they thought the president that that the Senator Robert Dole was the president

3:12 in waiting in nineteen ninety five, and Clinton he did the uh you know, federal reforms for first social Security and then also uh you know, realigning the welfare system nationally, and that and his comments. I’m really surprised more Democrats don’t use them because they reflect the Democratic Party of John F. Kennedy, of Lyndon B. Johnson, of Jimmy Carter

3:44 when he was in office, and Bill Clinton. You know, at no time did any of them go on a you know, just like an escapade to start doing a whole lot of things that hadn’t been done before. And we wound up in a position where right now the three biggest problems in this country would have you’d have

4:04 to assume are what are we going to do about the Ukraine? What are we to do about inflation and basically what are we going to do about government spending? Those are the problems and and on your show he addressed all of them.

4:23 Speaker 1 Yeah, it just it just it was incredible that he’s one smart guy and I respect him and I think a lot of people in both parties still respect him. What else would you like to talk about. We got a big mess in Washington, we got a big mess in Aubany. I mean everybody, everybody’s walking around saying that

4:49 the crime is down, But does that really reflect that the police officers don’t really want to make.

4:58 Speaker 2 Us well, the crime is down, but the crime is continuing. And as I’ve said before on this show, it isn’t contained too high crime communities. That can happen anywhere. And just about a week ago, there was a young man, very activist, a social justice person, out in Brooklyn and he was slain with a knife right in front of

5:29 his girlfriend at four o’clock in the morning while they were sitting on a bench by an insane person that was destroying motorcycles that were parked there. And when they noticed him, he came over and stabbed the poor gentlemen from that area. And when you hear about these types of situations, you can’t feel any better. Numbers aren’t going

5:53 to make you feel better. You kind of know when things are better in terms of the crime rate, and we’ve been through the ups and the downs before, and right now is not a place that I think too many New Yorkers feel particularly safe. Not that the leaders aren’t trying, and not that there haven’t been some positive results,

6:16 but I think it’s a little early to claim victory.

6:21 Speaker 1 I understand, and I agree with you. The other thing that I’ve heard Albany saying that things are okay, excuse me, especially with the budget, but me and you, I think we know that we think they’re going to be short and are people moving.

6:48 Speaker 2 In well, No, the tax repeat going back to April on a monthly basis have been less and less. As the Controller of the State of New York Tom Anapolis, Now, it’s one thing to say things are okay. It’s another thing to find out that how much can they stay okay with that dwindling amount of resources that you would

7:21 have to try to combat a deficit? And I get the feeling that we’re about to fall into a deficit because our tax collections are not nearly the way they were projected. And just this week they changed the name of a train station in rensull Or, Albany to the name to Joe Bruno, the late Majority leader of the Senate,

7:48 was a good friend of mine and I spoke here, and as I was talking to people up there, they were kind of saying that, you know, we’ve got to be a lot more rational and a lot more just honest about financially where our state is. And in that respect, everybody’s going to have to, as we have in the past,

8:10 kind of join hands and try to fight it. But to to look up at the sky and say that, you know, everything is fine is not really a good theory that is going to lead to a good solution.

8:26 Speaker 1 No. One of these days we’re going to hit the wall. And I agree with you. Anything else you want to tell the all America.

8:36 Speaker 2 Well, you know this is a pivotal point. Now you have a speaker’s race in Congress. Last Sunday, while you were on the air, the speaker, Kevin McCarthy, was saying, bring it on. Well, they brought it on, and now he’s out and there are a couple of people trying to take his place. But what I like about this

8:59 whole situation, if there’s anything to like about it at all, is that there’s going to have to be a little more bipartisanship. Everyone’s going to have to give a little in this particular situation because our country’s face with a lot of problems, and there was a terrible bombing in a territory that had just been taken over by the

9:20 Ukrainians on Thursday, fifty one people killed, and a lot of people are saying that that was pudent reacting to the fact that there’s a little bit of a breakdown in the leadership of this government and we’ve got to get it together. Because as much as I was talking about congressmen and seals are criticizing the President for his

9:42 recent action, she did say that we have to support Ukraine, and if we don’t, we’re going to find out what the Cubans found out, what the people in Crimea found out, and what the people in Russia found out when they supported these types of governments in their early stages.

9:59 Speaker 1 We David Patterson, thank you so much for speaking out and telling the American people the truth. All in New York is the truth, and we’ll catch up with you again, real soon.

10:10 Speaker 2 Thank you so much, John,