Confident he will turn back judgment.

0:00 Speaker 1 With us this Sunday morning. It’s Rudy Giuliani, America’s best mayor. He was mayor of New York City for many years, did a great job, and so many things happened since then, meg, mister mayor, What the heck is going on in our country?

0:18 I’ll tell you. When me and you were growing up were almost the same age. We used to read this stuff in the bizarro comics.

0:27 Speaker 2 And yeah, this was stuff.

0:29 Speaker 3 It was like science fiction or something, or nineteen eighty four or who knows what it was, stuff that never could happen in America.

0:35 Speaker 1 Yes, and it’s happening. I mean, what happened in Colorado with President Trump. Why can’t they wait to the actual election to find out who wins.

0:50 Speaker 3 Because they don’t want to. They want to cut them off. I mean they’re doing you know, it’s really strange. John Maduro is doing in Venezuela exactly what Biden is doing in America. America said we’re going to give you money if you have free and fair elections. He said, I’m gonna have free and fair elections, and then he prosecuted

1:06 the opposition and he’s putting them in prison.

1:09 Speaker 1 I mean, it is that’s what’s happening. It’s crazy.

1:13 Speaker 3 Somebody suggested I think it was Aary Fleischer might have been on your show. I think that Republicans are thinking about doing it now. I don’t think they should. But think about this, John, I could go to like Mississippi or Alabama or a Republican place. I could take all my reports about Biden and I could say, believe me,

1:31 he’s a crook.

1:32 Speaker 2 Yeah, and they’d say, okay, we believe you. He’s a crook.

1:35 Speaker 3 He tried to overthrow the government with the Chinese, and therefore we’re gonna take him off the ballot.

1:41 Speaker 2 That’s what the court did.

1:42 Speaker 3 They took a biased report, the J six report, no Republican involved, no cross examination, nothing more biased than anything I ever did. But okay, let’s say equally, and Republicans can do that any anywhere, any time to Biden. Put all the stuff on Biden. You could take any of these things, the stuff he didn’t Ukraine. You could say

2:01 it created an overthrow of our government or a destruction of our government, or a rule of law, and a court, a biased Republican court could take him off the ballot.

2:11 Speaker 2 I wouldn’t want that.

2:12 Speaker 3 You wouldn’t want that, even if we’re against Biden, wouldn’t want that. If this were done to Biden, I’d be against it. I think you were too, I know.

2:20 Speaker 1 You absolutely, And we don’t want Look, we want fair and square elections, and we want and we don’t want what’s happening right now. Why, I mean, I can see what I can’t see. Why can’t they just leave it alone.

2:35 The election is only eleven months away and let the people decide.

2:40 Speaker 3 Because no matter what they say, they’re afraid of him winning and his breaking up. There very cozy, enormously profitable in amounts of money that shocked me when I started five six years ago doing they had no idea how big this was. I mean, what the alleged that’s being hidden by Zelenski to the President of Ukraine for the

3:04 deal that Biden is between fifty and one hundred million dollars John, I never heard of a fifty one hundred million dollar bribe.

3:10 Speaker 2 When I did.

3:10 Speaker 3 Bribery cases, I put congressmen in jail for fifty thousand dollars bribes.

3:15 Speaker 1 I feel almost who was the guy with the frozen one hundred dollar bills in his freezer?

3:21 Speaker 3 Right Well, Congressman Podell went to jail for forty thousand dollars bribes, but aage, I don’t know there was about thirty or forty thousand dollars. I mean the Biden’s Biden got thirty one million dollars just from China. I mean we’re talking about money that I guess turns. You know, you’re an exceptional person. You’ve made an extraordinary amount of money,

3:41 You’ve made it by hard work, and it’s never turned you.

3:43 Speaker 2 It’s never, it’s never.

3:44 Speaker 1 You know, I was ruty on my same guy I was thirty years ago.

3:48 Speaker 3 Well I can, I can, I can testify to that.

3:52 Speaker 2 But it turns people, doesn’t.

3:53 Speaker 3 I mean, you know a lot of people, maybe people that came up like you and they haven’t remained like you are.

3:58 Speaker 2 Money can corrupt really horribly. I guess we all know that.

4:03 Speaker 1 Right, absolutely absolutely, But it’s so sad. It is so sad. Where do we go from here? Mister Mayo?

4:11 Speaker 3 Well, I mean, I think the election of twenty four is in fact the most We always say this, but it’s critical. I don’t know where we go if we remain with this kind of corrupt government, and if it’s Trump or it’s some other Republican. They got to be true to getting it done, to cleaning it out. We

4:30 almost have to start fresh, like with the FBI, particularly those law enforcement agencies have to be straightened out because they can do horrible damage to innocent people, and they do, and we straighten those out. I think we’re on the right road.

4:46 Speaker 2 If we don’t, we’ve got to like a dictatorship.

4:49 Speaker 1 It’s worse than a third world country, mister Mayor. If we lose in twenty twenty four, we don’t get the right counts, and we don’t get you know, and we just lose. I ain’t worried about our country.

5:06 Speaker 3 I can’t even imagine. I do too more than more than you know. I wake up in the morning sometimes and I can’t believe we are where we are, and I just have to have faith. I pray to God, and I know God is looking over us. And this is the day before Christmas, so He always has been there.

5:24 We’ve had very hard times in America. You’ve had very hard times in your life. I’ve had hard times in my life. When when I found out what the court decision was and I was shocked, you know, you know what I said to my friend, I said, this isn’t as bad as cancer. I got over cancer, so I

5:43 know it wasn’t as bad as being trapped on September.

5:45 Speaker 1 Well, when assuming you and he have a judgment against you for one hundred and forty eight million dollars, there’s no way that you can pay that, No, and they probably made that.

5:55 Speaker 2 It’s a horrible it’s a horrible thing.

5:56 Speaker 3 But being there with Bernie Carrick in forty five other people and not knowing whether we were going to get out and now knowing that we.

6:03 Speaker 2 Did, was worse.

6:05 Speaker 3 Rights I wouldn’t have been there. I wouldn’t have been there for the one hundred and forty five million dollar verdict if the building fell the wrong way or the cancer had been worse.

6:15 Speaker 1 Absolutely well, mister Mayor, I pray this Christmas.

6:20 Speaker 2 No, I pray for you and both of us.

6:23 Speaker 1 And I pray for your family and you have a great kid.

6:27 Speaker 2 And may I say the same about you. John.

6:30 Speaker 3 Nobody does it enough. John, You and Margo over the last couple of years have done something. You’ve done many things in your life, just maybe the most important at a time in which, among other things, a writer free speech is being destroyed in America. You’re keeping it alive, you and a couple of other people, and when they

6:46 write the history of this period, you’re going to be one of the people that’s one of the First Amendment heroes by allowing this station that has me Cuomo, Curtis Wiener, Greg, Greg Kelly Mark. I mean, I don’t want to leave anybody out. You’ve got the greatest people. Bill Well, Bill O’Reilly, My goodness. I mean, he’s too big even to mention.

7:11 Speaker 1 He’s over six foot seven.

7:12 Speaker 3 You know, we saw him last night, you know, at the party and play he can still play basketball, that guy.

7:18 Speaker 2 I would I wouldn’t have to guard him, I have to foul him.

7:20 Speaker 1 Mister Mayor, Thank you, Mary John.

7:22 Speaker 3 You’re a wonderful man, and you have a wonderful family. Your children are brought up just in your spirit. They’ll carry it on and it’s a blessing to know you.

7:31 Speaker 1 Thank you so much. Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas.