Governor Hochul's budget partly wishful thinking.

0:00 Speaker 1 With us today is Governor David Patterson, and it’s in the new year. The Governor Hokeel has come out with a budget, and we need an analysis of somebody that knows what really is going on with those budgets. Governor tell us give us your good, bad, and ugly or whatever.

0:19 If there is any ugly in what the the budget that Governor Hockel has laid out for New York.

0:26 Speaker 2 State, Well, the New York Post doesn’t think it’s good. They said, and I quote that local solution to the budget problems is more spending. Now, I don’t understand how they could write that this year’s budget is approximately two hundred and thirty three billion dollars. Last year’s budget was approximately two undred twenty nine billion dollars. So this is

0:50 a one point eight percent increase in budget spending as when the which is twenty percent of the inflation rate. So I would say that this is a very fair and balanced approach that Governor Hopel has taken. I mean, you can say anything and get a headline, but she is really weighing in on a lot of issues. She

1:13 is hoping to extend mayoral control of the school system for four years. It was extended by the legislature two years a couple of years ago. The legislature even more than the governor, is questioning how the city runs the educational system. That ought to be a very interesting discussion and negotiation and perhaps disagreement in the next couple of months.

1:41 One thing Governor Hopell did that Republicans are applauding all over the state. She will not raise taxes on the rich now, and she was very emphatic about it. Reminded me of in nineteen eighty nine when President George Herbert walker Bush said, read my lips, no new taxes, actually said it in nineteen eighty eight in his campaign speeches,

2:02 but was forced to raise taxes because of the nineteen ninety one deficit. But she’s going to stick to that, and I think that’s very important because right now you’ve got a situation where the Controller Tom DiNapoli gave a report that in twenty twenty one twice the number of people moved out of New York who were making five

2:30 hundred thousand dollars a year and over then in twenty nineteen, So there is really a race to get out of the city. And as Governor Hokle pointed out in the State of the State address some of the places that are going on New Jersey, Connecticut, and Pennsylvania. So they are you know, this is how expensive the city has become.

2:54 There are going to be millions of dollars to combat shoplift. Thing that’s in her budget. That’s going to be I think a very difficult thing to actually make happen. It’s a great idea, but really best way to UH to start UH to stop shoplifting is to give the police and the sore owners the opportunity to UH to stop

3:19 the action when it’s actually happened. So what’s interesting that Republicans are more favorable to the budget than usual, and we’re very fair about their their criticisms. One of the aspects of putting a budget out is it’s the baseline for negotiation. And right now the Democrats have super majorities in the state Senate and the Assembly, and there’s a

3:46 feeling that she may override a lot of what she wants to do. But I don’t think that’s going to be the case. I think she’s had a very good relationship with them. Was a stormy beginning that her judge was shot down and her first Budge really didn’t address crime, but I think they’ve worked together very well over the

4:04 past few years. And she is going to give two point four billion dollars back to the city to handle the migrant situation, and she really talked about the need to do this, and I thought that the really thoughtful and just in terms of strategy approach of the governor was to lay everything out at the feet of the

4:32 federal government, but not say it. You know, sometimes candor is not the best solution when you’re negotiating. She didn’t say really a bad thing about the federal government.

4:44 Speaker 1 And the word migrant never came up.

4:47 Speaker 2 Right, Well, it didn’t come up in her stated state address, but it did come up yesterday in her budget, not yesterday last Wednesday, talking about in her in her budget preciation. So I think that this is a good baseline and I think the players all understand what the game is going to be this particular year. One thing though, that

5:18 I did want to talk about John You and Rita. I believe it was Monday, Martin Luther King’s birthday had Mayor Adams on as a gift, and I thirty was fantastic, and he pointed out some things that really aren’t known too.

5:31 In particular, one is that people talk about taking the migrants and shipping them someplace else, but you can’t because they’re not illegal, they’re not illegal aliens. You can’t put them out of the country. They were parolled into the country by the government.

5:47 Speaker 1 That is a that me and you might disagree on because of the fact that they somebody taught them what to say when they crossed the border, that they are what do you call.

6:02 Speaker 2 It the seeking asylum?

6:04 Speaker 1 Yes, I mean, which is a lot of bs. The whole world seeks aside and we can’t take a billion people into the United States, Governor, I mean enough with this, you know, I went out it. I went at it the other day with with Anthony Wiener. This asylum is a lot of BS.

6:23 Speaker 2 It may be, but if you want to change the law, you change the law. You can’t start enforcing the law that’s not on the books.

6:31 Speaker 1 What do you do to the lawyers that stand on the other side of the border and brief them what to say? The American lawyers the American citizens briefing them what to say to get into.

6:42 Speaker 2 The country will be fine with me. The American lawyers who across the border, tell them what to say when to get in the country, stayed on the other side of the border since they like going there so much.

6:51 But the point is that there are times when something may be wrong morally, but the fastest way to address that would be through the law. And I don’t think too many people would oppose that right now, if we change the laws about people who just come into the country.

7:09 But his point is that the the the federal courts would come down on him if he took an action that’s outside of what the jurisdictional law is right now. And I thought that he totally sympathizes with the problem, and he is the one who really took the hit for pointing the finger the federal government in the first place.

7:36 And now you see mayors from Washington, d C, Denver, Colorado, Chicago, Illinois doing the same thing. So I thought it was a great interview that you all had with him.

7:45 Speaker 1 No, I felt good about it. Look, I think he’s trying. And I said to him, sometimes, I said to Mayor Adam, sometimes you just have to put your foot down because the people of the city of New York will back you up if you put your foot down, no matter what the theoretical law is.

8:06 Speaker 2 Well, you can do that, but as he explained to you and Rita, the sanctions they can put on him, the same people who are, you know, pushing him into the fight with the school bully will not be around when the fight starts.

8:23 Speaker 1 Absolutely, and we understand that. We understand that. Well, thank you, Governor Patterson, and thank you for your wisdom and thank you for telling us the truth. And like I said, the only thing we disagree on is this asylum BS that I call it because you can’t allow a billion people to come into the United States of America because

8:47 they a billion people want to commit asylum and enough is enough, Governor, Thank you so much.

8:53 Speaker 2 I appreciate here. What does BS stand for?

8:56 Speaker 1 Bull something? Are we allowed to say boot crap?

9:02 Speaker 2 Yeah, we can say that.

9:03 Speaker 1 Thank you, God, bless you over here.