The New York state budget has a few holes in it.

0:00 Speaker 1 What is today is former Governor David Pattison. There’s so many things happening in our city, in our state, our country, Governor Patterson, where do we want to start today.

0:10 Speaker 2 Let’s start with the decision of the New York State Appellate Division, which is not New.

0:16 Speaker 3 York’s highest court. The highest court is the Court of Appeals.

0:18 Speaker 2 But the Appellate Division ruled three to two on Thursday knocking out the reapportionment map that would favor the Republicans in favor of the original proposal that was submitted by the Democrats. Now, if anyone’s upset about that, don’t get too upset, because this case keeps going back and forth.

0:42 It lost now at one, it could lose again at the court at the state Court of Appeals level.

0:50 Speaker 3 Where will be.

0:50 Speaker 1 Now, Governor, isn’t that the new socialist judge that was appointed because the State Senate and the State Assembly forced it down, Governor Governor Hookle’s throat.

1:05 Speaker 3 Well, it could be.

1:06 Speaker 2 I don’t know how each of the judges voted, you know, I haven’t seen the list of how each judge voted.

1:11 Speaker 3 But this is not the end of this case.

1:14 Speaker 2 It will now go to the Court of Appeals for a final decision. So we’ll just wait and see how this goes. It’s very close, and I think that’s why the judges are sort of.

1:27 Speaker 3 You know, not all in sync here.

1:31 Speaker 2 There are a lot of different issues that are going into making this decision.

1:34 Speaker 1 But does that pass the smell test Governor that the legislature forces a judge that they originally they selected an original judge with the judge from Long Island that was a legitimate guy, created a situation where he doesn’t get approved, so they can get another judge that they feel is going to be voting their way.

2:00 Speaker 3 Well, that’s at the Court of Appeals level.

2:02 Speaker 2 This particular decision right now is at the appellate division, so that judge could not have voted there.

2:10 Speaker 3 But we’ll we’ll find out.

2:11 Speaker 2 Soon enough because the Court of Appeals is going to have to discharge this case as quickly as possible.

2:16 Speaker 1 Understood now, the other situation going on is New York keeps losing residents that keep you know, we joke around and play this song Exodus and four hundred and eighty four thousand have moved already and it hasn’t stopped. And the rumor is that the budget is going to be in trouble because taxation.

2:44 Speaker 3 Taxes received are way down.

2:48 Speaker 1 And everybody blames law and order, but does some of the politicians refuse to acknowledge law and order?

2:58 Speaker 2 Well, I think sticks at least where the public is concerned, are that one percent of New York State residents feel that they didn’t think they would feel as afraid of crime as they are now. Fifty two percent of the group from New York City voted that way, thirty one percent of the Upstaters.

3:24 Speaker 3 Felt that way, and thirty two percent of the.

3:28 Speaker 2 Of the rest of the group, and that would be the group from Long Island and that area. So that’s a pretty significant number. And I think nearly seventy eight percent of them said that they think they haven’t been as bothered about crime as they are now. So what Mayor Adams has tried to say from time to time,

3:50 because he did reduce gun trafficking by twenty five percent in the last year compared to the previous year, is that the media is hyping up a lot of these high profile cases and that that scares the public. Now he’s right about that, but that was the way it is now, that’s the way it was in nineteen ninety,

4:12 even when.

4:12 Speaker 3 The crime rate was low. When you have very dramatic situations like the.

4:19 Speaker 2 Road rage situation at sixtieth Street and between Park and Lexington, where the man.

4:27 Speaker 3 Got out of his car and started slashing.

4:29 Speaker 2 The tires of the other car. The driver of the other car hit him and knocked him through a window and killed him. I mean, that’s going to be on the front page, that would It was a particular case that’s been covered nationally. So I think Mayor Adams is right.

4:43 I understand how he feels. You know, you work real hard to try to make changes. You make some changes and they’re never going to be highlighted as much as the horrific crimes that occur. But I think that I think we can all agree generally that there is a rampant fear of crime by most residents of the city.

5:04 And of course there are a lot of people who’ve moved out of the city.

5:08 Speaker 1 And if the city keeps declining, you know, I heard a rumor that the last twelve months could be as much as twenty percent. How do you make the why do you cut the budget?

5:21 Speaker 2 Well, the problem is as people leave, that decreases the number of people that can pay taxes. So you can tax the rich all you want, but they’ll come a point where there’s a breaking point where you’re not going to have enough money to balance your budget because you don’t have enough people in the jurisdiction to pay for

5:40 some of the great changes. And even just this week, the New York City Housing Authority said it needs seventy eight billion dollars to fix all of the problems in public housing. Right now, on another situation, a fight between the mayor and.

5:55 Speaker 3 The city council.

5:55 Speaker 2 City Council now exercising its right to override the mayor’s veto, is going to add a great deal of money to the budget. The mayor estimates it to be between fifteen and seventeen billion dollars for a vouchers for people who.

6:12 Speaker 3 Don’t have homes.

6:13 Speaker 2 And right now there are twenty thousand people in New York walking around.

6:17 Speaker 3 They got the vouchers, but they can’t find an apartment.

6:20 Speaker 2 So you know, this is a situation that it’s I think getting the leadership from Mayor Adams that it deserves, but other people are also going to have to fall online with his realization of what the what the obstacles are understood.

6:41 Speaker 1 One of the things, what are the things concerning you about New York City and New York State? What else is going to help us?

6:48 Speaker 2 Well, when they did have this big fight over the vouchers this week, what really concerned me and I saw a man named de Baron who spent a lot of time in shelters whole life and then became an advocate, And what he said is that neither the Mayor’s office nor the city council addressed the issue of families with children.

7:11 They were not given priority. Families with children, the disabled, the elderly, they should be the first ones that the department addresses, and they didn’t do it. And I think with all the arguing about how much money was going to cost and whether or not the vouchers would be putting the individuals in shelters in competition with each other.

7:35 Speaker 3 And of course, John, to get.

7:37 Speaker 2 A voucher, you have to have a salary that is less than two hundred percent of the poverty line, and so the right people are looking. But what bothered me about the situation is that the most vulnerable people, the children and the disabled, were not really addressed in this discussion.

8:01 Speaker 1 Understood. We have one minute left. Give me something that’s going to make New Yorkers happy, and we’re going into a long, hot summer.

8:10 Speaker 2 Welling, We’re going into a long hot summer, and the Yankees and Mets are back on the field playing, and hopefully maybe one of them will make the playoffs and make the fall a little more exciting than it usually is.

8:25 Speaker 3 But other than that, I think that, as I’ve.

8:28 Speaker 2 Always said, we’re New Yorkers. We’re resilient. We dealt with nine to eleven, we dealt with blackouts, We’ve dealt with a whole lot of problems, and I think we have the brain power and the great capacity to solve the problems that we’ve discussed over the past three minutes.

8:47 Speaker 1 Governor David Pattison, thank you for everything you’ve done for our city or state or country, and God bless you, and God bless America.

8:54 Speaker 3 Thank you. John