The State has to step up with aid for migrants.

0:00 Speaker 1 With us today is retired Governor David Pattison, and he has a lot of knowledge of what the heck is going on in New York City and New York State a country, and he always makes big news. Governor Patterson, what’s on your mind this Sunday morning?

0:15 Speaker 2 Well, this is something that does go on in our city or state, in our country, and it’s that the political divide has become so exponential that people don’t trust anything that others of a different political persuasion believe it. So, for instance, you’ve got people questioning the judgment of a court.

0:37 You’ve got people questioning the discretion of a district attorney. And you’ve got this on both sides, and it is driving I think, our country further and further apart from each other. It’s going to be difficult to have Thanksgiving dinner anywhere this year because it just seems to get worse and worse. And I really fear for the garle

1:00 of Americans if we just continue to allow this to go on.

1:05 Speaker 1 I was I was being told by a friend that friends came over to her house and there was a picture of her and President Trump, and she looked at it, she left, She didn’t want to be friends anymore. Wow. Wow, I mean, what’s happening to us as governor?

1:27 Speaker 2 Well, that’s exactly what I’m talking about, is that there’s there’s no respect for someone else’s differing point of view or their feelings about a particular political subject, and it’s manifesting itself and it’s just going to create really what’s going to be anarchy in this country and chaos where people think if elections lost and near candidate didn’t win,

1:50 that they can take any action to try to reverse the situation. And and now you know, it’s just gotten to the point where it has basically infected both of the political parties leadership and is really a crucible for people right here in New York where it goes on.

2:14 Speaker 1 Governor, you were a Democratic governor and things were a lot more civilized when you’re other than you’re getting in trouble for accepting a Yankee tickets for even though you couldn’t.

2:27 Speaker 2 See the game and they lost that game too.

2:30 Speaker 1 Oh my god, they verbally told you that. Tell us where is the Democratic Party? President Biden is going to be eighty two years old or something. Is he is the Democratic Party? In he’s having some problems, and some people are trying to run against them. Robert Kennedy or Newsom from California. Even Governor Murphy from New Jersey said

3:03 that if President Biden does not run, he may want to run. Give us a scoreboard and what your feelings are. You talk to a lot of people, you have national presence.

3:15 Speaker 2 So the President says he’s running for reelection, and he has a right to do that. I don’t think that the number of his age is reflective either for him or for anyone else of what kind of service they could actually bring. But certainly right now, at this particular point, he’s got the situation with the migrants, not just in

3:41 New York City but all over the country where the migrants are being sent and these municipalities do not have the wherewithal to stand it. Also, they were placed there immediately and there was no time to even plan for that kind of situation. And so I think that that makes other Democrats a little weary of whether or not

4:05 that kind of policy might drive Democrats away from, you know, from the Democratic candidates as we saw it happened in the past where issues of crime or issues of overcrowded neighborhoods with new people in the country have swayed elections, and so I think that’s where a lot of the you know, fear is coming from. And I think if

4:31 the president wants to run free election, he’s entitled to do that, you know, until such time as he’s beaten. He’s the president. But certainly there is I think, kind of a clamor, you know, on the lower frequencies of the party where people are wondering how we’re going to, you know, try to maintain our positions in Congress and

4:55 the US Senate as well as try to preserve the presidency. In twenty twenty four, in New.

5:03 Speaker 1 York, Governor Mayor Adams has asked Governor Hocke to force other counties to take migrants in because New York City, the five boroughs are getting overcrowded. Nassauk and Suffolk has said no way. Staten Island is revolting. What do you think Governor Hocke is gonna do well.

5:27 Speaker 2 Governor Hockel is right when she says that she can’t by executive order just start moving people in and out of particular areas that she needs with her the support of the new York State Senate and the New York State Assembly. Now what’s interesting is I would have thought that since both of those bodies are run by Democrats,

5:51 that they would be more than happy to create a situation where the distribution of the migrants in New York was a little more fair and equador, particular in a lot of particularly in a lot of upstate regions, where there would.

6:05 Speaker 1 Be a lot more space.

6:08 Speaker 2 Also, I think that they could ever just get to the point where they let them the migrants work. You’ll find out that many of them can hold jobs, and many of them can be part of the economy rather than being, you know, kind of having their life stewarded by the state right now. So I think that this

6:29 is the point that Governor Hockal is trying to make. But at the same time, Mayor Adams is complaining the way other mayors of municipalities around the country are that they just don’t have the resources they hung on as long as they could. Mayor Adams has been blamed because he welcomed the migrants at first, and they’re sort of saying, well,

6:51 since you welcome them, now, it’s your problem. No, he welcomed them, and he has come to recognize as everyone else in the country, is that there’s only a certain amount of charity that you can bring before you have really started to affect the quality of life for your constituents if you continue to do it. And that’s why

7:16 the migrant situation now at about one hundred and ten thousand, Mayor Adams predicts is going to go up one hundred and sixty thousand. So unless somebody does something soon, it’s going to get worse.

7:27 Speaker 1 It’s out of control, and people are studying to get angry. Governor anything Sunday morning, we got a minute left. Anything else you want to tell the American people or the people of New York.

7:41 Speaker 2 Well, you know, I thought it was very interesting this week the Republicans have now had their first debate. I thought the debate was very inspiring. I mean, it was not boring for the time that I watched it. And what I thought was particularly interesting is that there’s always a candidate that ignites, you know, a passionate reaction. And

8:05 so when Governor Christy and former Vice President Pence really gave it to the gentleman who was thirty eight years old and trying to run for president, I thought those exchanges were primetime TV specials. They were great. And Governor Christy as our friend Mark Simons was kind of like the Ralph Cramton of New Jersey when he voiced his

8:35 displeasure at a new candidate. That really isn’t you know seasoned in the party came into the race. But that’s part of presidential races. They’ve been a number of new candidates. It was a senator from Chicago who won the presidency after only being there for two years, one named Lincoln in nineteen eighteen sixty and one named Obama in two

8:59 thousand and eight. So these types of candidates coming from out of nowhere can capture the excitement of the public and do very well.

9:08 Speaker 1 You’re absolutely right. I forgot Lincoln and President Obama a United States senators very short time and then they became president. Well, Governor Patterson, thank you for everything you do and thank you for speaking up for all New Yorkers and all Americans.

9:27 And we’ll catch up with you again real soon.

9:29 Speaker 2 Well, John, every place I go, people tell me hear you with John Katzman, Tits and who’s he having on next weekend? So you’ve really created a little further around the city, and it’s welcomed.

9:39 Speaker 1 Oh, thank you so much, and God bless you, and God bless America. And I hope we have a civilized situation between Democrats and Republicans.