History of Israel.

0:00 Speaker 1 What is today is Hally Lippman, a good friend of mine. We’ve known each other forever and he’s a a good writer for about Israel. Any well, Holly, we haven’t seen each other in a year. Tell us what you’ve been doing.

0:18 Speaker 2 Okay, thank you for introducing me, and delighted to be here. Yeah. I’ve been on television all over the world basically explaining the case for Israel and giving an analysis of what’s really going on, what’s the reality and what’s the truth?

0:39 And I focus on facts, and that’s what I like to speak about. Is you know, talking about who has the right to that land and why why is there no Palestinian nation, Why does the Jews have a right to a homeland in the Middle East. I just speak about that in a concise way. And I’ve been on

0:58 and I’ve been on Arab television where I’ve been with I’m with Iranian officials. I’ve been on Arab television where I’ve been on with junior Russian officials talking about Ukraine. So somehow I I’m seeing as a thought leader and I’m able to communicate my thoughts all over the world.

1:19 Speaker 1 And the current state of events. Nobody really knows what’s going on the war that went on a couple of weeks ago, some people calling it a staged war versus a real war. Does anybody really know what’s going on?

1:39 Speaker 2 Yeah, it’s a good question. I mean, you know, it’s always it’s always better to have more transparency. But yes, I think there is. I could give you facts and data to speak to that, so you know. And actually I’m going to be addressing Parliament in England next week and I’m going to be speaking about this. So if

1:56 I could begin, and I think I want to explain this also touches on PSI Semitism, but I think a lot of people, even Jews, don’t really know the facts and understand how Israel was created, and that’s what I want.

2:09 Speaker 3 To and that’s what I like to speak about.

2:11 Speaker 1 Well, please tell us.

2:12 Speaker 2 Yeah, so if you were to begin, you know, Jews have always been in Israel. There has always been a continuous significant amount.

2:21 Speaker 3 Of Jews that have always been there.

2:23 Speaker 2 The reason why you have Jewish neighbors is because the Roman Empire, the imperialists, the Romans came to Israel for three wars and destroyed Israel in the year seventy eighty and in doing so forced the Jews out of the land of Israel.

2:40 Speaker 3 Again.

2:40 Speaker 2 Certain number always remained, but they were forced someone to the Arab world. Some went to Europe. This is how the exodus began. And Jews have always strived to be seen as equals. They have always tried to be fully accepted as equal citizens within their country. But what happened is comes the eighteen hundreds, the Zionist movement, which simply

3:07 means the right of a Jews to a homeland in the Middle East. That’s all what Zionism means. So the Zionist movement was created for two reasons. One because Jews were being slaughtered. They were being accused of killing Christ of all kinds of things, poisoning the water in.

3:24 Speaker 3 The Middle Ages. And why did that happen?

3:26 Speaker 2 Jews who are especially religious, they have to wash their hands before they eat and make a prayer to God. So what happened is during Biblical during the Middle Ages. Rather they took place and not any Jews were infected by the Mubonic plague. Many non Jews were, so they blamed the Jews for poisoning the wells. But Jews simply

3:48 were very clean, so they didn’t catch the virus that the Mubonic plays caused and then they were massacred. So Jews were being massacred and slaughtered regularly. It was extremely perilous a Jew to be living in Europe. And while in the Arab world they didn’t face as much massacres as they did in Europe. They were only accepted if

4:08 they accepted second class citizenship. They had a bow and a Muslim went passed. So why I’m saying all this is that Jews felt that they’ll never be accepted as equals. People are too jealous of Jews. You know, no one wants to tell their children, hey, don’t be successful, because you’re going to make people jealous. So all these reasons,

4:29 they said, we need a place of our own, and we need to go back to our ancestral homeland. Now let’s talk about that. What did Palestine Israel look like. Well, two famous American writers visited that land in the eighteen hundreds, Herman Melville and Mark Twain, and both of them described in detail how unpopulated it was. There was almost nobody there.

4:53 They said. There were some Jews and Bedouins traveling back and forth in the Middle East, and the reason why it was so populated was because the land didn’t have sanitary conditions. It was filled with malaria and it was unsafe.

5:10 Speaker 1 Land was a desert land.

5:14 Speaker 2 Part of it was desert. You know, when Israel was created, sixty three percent of Israel was the desert. He gave Israel the negative desert. But basically it was just in disrepair. The Ottoman Empire had controlled it and they basically neglected it.

5:28 So it was just a poverty stricken, very unpleasant place to visit. You would have some Christians that would go visit Holy Site, some Jews some, but it was people would write about it and describe how unsafe it was and how unsanitary it was, and how dangerous it was. So what happened was Jews said, we’re going to go there.

5:54 Now what’s important is and I’m going to give an example. If you think of the United Nations, I can’t think of one country at the United Nations that was not created to war and violence. Step four Israel. Israel was created through the legal purchase of land.

6:12 Speaker 3 This many people don’t know.

6:14 Speaker 2 No Jews went to Israel to squad or to push out anyone there.

6:21 Speaker 1 Who bought it, who sold it.

6:24 Speaker 2 The Rothschilds financed it overwhelmingly, and it was bought from Arab owners, so it was legally purchased. About forty thousand Jews went there and legally bought the land. Now that said, what do they do when they went there? They eliminated malaria, They put in infrastructure, roads, electricity, They created advanced enterprises and factories. And what that did was that created a

6:52 huge job magnet in Israel, because in the Arab world at the turn of the last century, at nineteen hundred and nineteen ten, nineteen twenty, the Arab world was deep in poverty and unemployment. It was the conditions were miserable, people were starving. It was terrible. So hundreds of thousands of Arabs came from Syria, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and

7:17 flocked to what we now know is Israel Palestine.

7:20 Speaker 1 And what year is that?

7:23 Speaker 2 This was nineteen ten, nineteen twenty, nineteen thirty, nineteen forty. I have quotes by the way from Mark Twain and Herman Melville describing how it was empty in the eighteen hundreds, and I have quotes that I can read it to you from Winston Churchill Well and Holly.

7:41 Speaker 1 We only have about two three minutes left, so you got to get.

7:44 Speaker 3 To the go to get to the rest.

7:46 Speaker 2 So fast forward. So the reason why I’m saying this, Jews are the oldest surviving indigenous people in the region. They were there. The Palestinians that we know today, eighty ninety percent of them moved there in the nineteen twenties and thirties and forties because of Jewish employment opportunities. Why is that important, Because the Palestinians are not the indigenous population.

8:11 So and then if we fast forward from there, then comes the Holocaust, Then comes the United Nations.

8:18 Speaker 3 And here’s the last part.

8:19 Speaker 2 The United Nations looked at this problem and they said, gee whiz, there are two peoples here Arabs will call them Palestinians now and Jews. They both deserve their own country. They’re both fighting with each other. We need to create two countries. And they did that. They created Israel and they created Palestine. At the time they called it an

8:39 Arab country. But where Palestinians live today, West benk and Gaza was designated an Arab country. Now Israel had no problem with it. What happened was the Arab world said we will not accept Israel no matter what. Five Arab armies invaded Israel tried to destroy if they lost. But then what happened to the country that was supposed to

8:59 be for the Palestinians, Gaza and the West Bank. Egypt illegally took Gaza for themselves, and Jordan’s illegally took the West Bank for themselves, destroying a Palestinian nation. So the reason why I wanted to share this soul with you is to emphasize three major points. One, Jews have always been in Israel and have always been in the land.

9:21 The only reason why they were kicked out is because of imperialist rome that destroyed them. Two, the land was largely depopulated. Three, the Jews bought land legally for they worked it. They earned it the hard way, built the land, made farms that we now know is kibbutzus. Five the Palestinians that talk about being the indigenous people are not

9:43 the indigenous people in the land of Israel. In Palestarani. They came there because of Jewish employment opportunities. And lastly, there was the Palestine created the Arab world destroyed that nation. And those are the points that I think is largely ignored or over looked.

10:01 Speaker 1 So what is your point? Now, what are you advocating? We got thirty forty seconds less.

10:07 Speaker 2 No, what I’m advocating is that one let Israel win a war. You know, they weren’t a whole other topic, but they were attacked. Hamask wants annihilation, they’re pro war.

10:18 Speaker 1 Look at these, I mean, are you advocating there should be two nations?

10:23 Speaker 2 I think there is already. Yes, there is a Palestine already. I mean even Viba Natanello in two thousand and nine recognize a separate Palestinian nation. He can’t walk that back. Yes, there should be two nations. The whole question is what does that Palestinian look like. Even George Bush when he went to create when he says they should be elections

10:42 in Gaza, and when they say that there should be a palace in the nation, there were conditions given. They’re not accepting these conditions. Israel just wants it to be demilitarized. They don’t want to be attacked from it. That’s basically the main condition.

10:56 Speaker 4 By the way, about Gaza, when they say occupation, When they talk about occupation, Israel pulled out of Gaza, nineteen years ago, they pulled out every single Jew.

11:07 Speaker 2 So what is this demonstration about occupation? This is nonsense. There have been no Jews in Gaza for the last nineteen years, so Jews are not occupying any place. What her master attacked was Israel, you know, Israel that was created as a nation in forty eight. It’s along the border of the desert, along the border of Gaza. That’s

11:29 what they attacked. You know, when they say that they have a right to defend themselves occupations, this is just nonsense. Is real not occupying Gaza?

11:38 Speaker 1 Holly, thank you for coming on and thank you for making it a little more explanatory. And if any anybody has doubts, we’ll put you on again and we’ll talk about it further. Thank you so much.