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Mark Penn Pollster and CEO of Stagwell

The Democratic Party Has Shifted Far-Left, Away from Centrism

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Speaker 1 Well Sunday Morning with us today is Mark Penn. He’s a poster, a political strategist, an author, and a businessman. Well Mark Penn, your chairman and chief executive officer of Stagwell and a big marketing group. And we both came from the same place. We were both built slitting Democrats.

Where is the Democratic Party going?

Speaker 2 Well? You know, the interesting thing about the Democrat Party is that on the basis of the polls, they’re actually doing pretty well, at least for now. But where is it going is such a difficult question because it has gone so far to the left behind causes that I think you and I would definitely have not considered as

the frontline causes We wouldn’t even have thought of them imaginable. And he’d have so many people within the party clamoring for so so there’s some open borders, defunding the police. And the odd thing is that right now you’re in a moment in which the public is sort of restless and unhappy, and so that’s tough for the ends. But

the Democratic Party doesn’t have an agenda that really has the hearts and minds of the people by any stretch of the imagination, and that is a big problem.

Speaker 1 What I’m worried about is is the Democratic Party AOC and mcdomie, which is socialist? Is the Democratic Party? I mean which way if you gave people, if you stop one hundred people on the street and ask them who is the head of Democratic National Committee, I don’t think one of them will let well, no, maybe one or two?

So which you know? Are they raising money? Not raising money? And do they have a direction?

Speaker 2 Well, look, no, they don’t have a direction. And they’re not going to have a direction really, and I was certainly disappointed by their attempt to shut the government down in the House. That made no sense to me. They’re not going to have a direction until this primary fight.

And hopefully there will be a primary fight, hopefully that it will not be the Party of AOC, maybe it will be the party of Senator Fetterman, and maybe it will be somewhere in between. But right now we don’t know.

We know that low turnout Democratic primaries have enabled the left to gain a considerable advantage within the Democratic Party. They’ve basically reversed everything that we did in Bill Clinton’s era when we moved the party to the center, we got it away from the left. We got it away from perennial huge losses and back back into the mainstream

of America. And I think they may be fooled by by a good looking midterm election that just benefits the outs versus an open presidential seat in which a left wing Democratic candidate predict will will go down in flames.

Speaker 1 And I mean, is there anybody I spoke to Joe Manchin a few weeks ago, and he’s declared himself an independent. I spoke to a few other people that moving closer to center. Do you see any close to center candidates outdea that are willing to stand up and be counted?

Speaker 2 Well, that’s the question. Will somebody like Josh Shapiro, you know, take on say Governor Newsom and Governor Pritzker and and come through here? Remember in the presidential primaries a lot of people vote. So what had happened in the past was Iowa was really the deciding place and they were kind of more to the left and Hampshire was a

little bit more to the right. But but I think that we don’t know what the primary structure will be. Uh, it may be a good opportunity for somebody like Shapiro to run and try to bring bring the party back to the center. We know that the DSA, the Democratic Socialis of America, are trying to take over the Democratic Party.

We know that that the You know that that you don’t really see a lot of moderates in the House or the Senate standing up against the left these days.

Speaker 1 But we don’t know.

Speaker 2 What’s going to happen in this presidential primary yet. I’m not giving up totally on the ability of the party and the Democratic voters to come to sense, But it may be that they need really good drugging before that happens, because that’s typically the way that the parties get common sense.

Speaker 1 Well, there was the way that what’s his name lost forty nine states.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we there in seventy two and eighty four. The Democratic Party reduced itself to a single state. They can do it again.

Speaker 1 Well, Rock Penn, thank you for bringing us up to date, and we look to talk more often to see and to save our country and to save our state, et cetera.

Speaker 2 Thank you so much, absolutely, thank you

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