Governor Hochul still facing crime problems despite the National Guard.

0:00 Speaker 1 With us this morning. Is the former governor of the State of New York. One common sense guy, one good friend, and he gives us good advice every Sunday morning. Governor, give us o good advice for Sunday Sunday morning. The budget is the Governor of hocal listening.

0:18 Speaker 2 Well. I think the governor is trying as hard as she can to bring this budget in on time, but there are really some built in structural issues that she has with the legislature, particularly about where money is spent and how it’s going to be spent, and it’s you know, it comes up this time every year, and every year

0:42 it looks gloomy. Some years the things work out more quickly, but I think right now they’ve got a lot of different issues that they have to grapple with, and of course the upstate region is railing that they’re being dealt out of a lot of resources, and this is an area she once represented it, so it’s putting her in

1:05 a very precarious position, and I just wish her well. He seems to come up with the idea to work it out, as she has in the past two budgets that she’s passed. So let’s hope that she can think of the right discussion to have with the legislature to bring it in on time this year.

1:26 Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean both you and Governor Cuomo gave her good advice. That she’s very powerful and during the budget period of time, and I hope she uses the bullets at her disposal.

1:42 Speaker 2 Well, you know, speaking of Governor Cuomo, we talked to him on the broadcast last Sunday and he said something and it really as a week went on, I was unnerved by the reaction to it because I saw it as a sense of reflection and a sense of honesty.

1:59 And what he said was that when he came in in twenty eleven, he was very dedicated to congestion, pricing and making it happen in the state, the long tough struggle that he had. But he think he thought he was approaching the finish line when he had to leave in where he chose to resign in twenty twenty one,

2:20 and the newspapers were writing that it was as if he didn’t know what he was doing. And he said, first he was with it. At first he’s with it, and then he’s not with it. But that is really the issue and the challenge of public service. Things may not be at a certain point the way they were

2:42 when you thought of a piece of legislation or a policy that you’d like to invoke. So I was really disturbed at the media outlets who took advantage of that. And of course I would be more than disturbed because I myself was with Mayor Bloomberg when he came up with the congestion pricing idea in a press conference in

3:02 two thousand and eight which Arnold Schwarzenegger was present on video from California. And my view was the same as the mayors and eventually Governor Como who succeeded me. But over the years, and particularly right now, the subways that just are not going to generate the revenue that the creators of this idea think that it is. It’s just

3:27 not going to happen.

3:27 Speaker 1 It’s not. And I mean, the people are still the subway system. Are they still getting in? Are we still losing eight hundred thousand a year on the on the tolls on getting into their subways?

3:44 Speaker 2 And as we learned, it isn’t just people walking in and get free ride. It’s people who can walk in and then pull a gun on somebody in the middle of a fight, and luckily for the victim, he got the gun away and shot the perpetrator who was in the subway system illegally at that particular time. These are

4:07 issues that are going to have to be drilled down on, but it’s going to take a while to work this out, as it always does. And I just think also the issue of how much we’re charging different vehicles to come at certain times and that kind of thing is going to be very complicated and very difficult. General Lever, the

4:30 head of the MTA and the governor have assured me that this is going to work, So you know, I’ll take their word for a moment. But I think the one positive thing is they do recognize the obstacles that they’re up against. Yeah.

4:49 Speaker 1 Yeah, it’s a lot of obstacles that really New York City is hurting and they I think, my opinion is they should just wait. Anything else you want to talk about, Well.

5:02 Speaker 2 It was very interesting to hear that earlier this week on the program that you had the former Prime Minister of Canada on the on the program, and and he was talking about the border, and he wasn’t talking about the Canadian border. He was talking about our border. And he’s one of these individuals that when he left office,

5:30 he didn’t mind commenting on anything that was going on anywhere, and it was really quite interesting what he talked about. And you know, after he left office, he was very critical of the NaSTA agreement that was occurring, feeling that Mexico was getting an unfair advantage and also feeling that the United States was not benefiting from this. And you know,

5:59 he is a world leader, and he may not have been the leader of the United States government, but those are some very valuable insights that I got from him when we met with him last Thursday.

6:11 Speaker 1 You’re you’re absolutely right, Well, Governor Patterson, let’s pray for New York, you know, and let’s hope the subways get safer so they can start using it. And I hope we collect our entrance fee to the subway so we don’t have to raise any more money because right now New York City is still hurting.

6:34 Speaker 2 Well, I ride the subway myself, I have since i’ve since I was seventeen, and for the most part, it seems fine. But it is a valuable, invaluable asset to New York City, and we’ve got to keep it safe.

6:52 Speaker 1 Yes, thank to Governor Patterson, and we’ll catch up with you again.

6:55 Speaker 2 Real Take care, John,