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0:01 Speaker 1 What is today is Ray Kelly. Ray Kelly is famous in New York, the longest serving NYPD commissioner ever and also did so many things for America, for the world. He served in Haiti under President Clinton to try to straighten out that that country. Well, Ray Kelly, New York.

0:27 I’m worried about New York. Tell me how you.

0:29 Speaker 2 Feel, John and May two of us. I met a man from London a couple of weeks ago, and I asked him what did he thought of New York. He had been to New York before, and he said, it looks like there’s nobody in charge. And that’s exactly my feeling.

0:48 I think it.

0:49 Speaker 3 Sums it up. He talked about the migrant thing, the migrants, particularly Ronod Roosevelt Hotel, homelessness, mentally deranged people, crime is way too hard, petty loss, and he of course the stores. He mentioned that you know how everything is locked up.

1:05 Speaker 2 In the in the stores. Subways. We know that subway crime is still very.

1:10 Speaker 3 Much an issue, and it’s keeping people.

1:12 Speaker 2 Off of the subway. It’s still significantly below what it was pre COVID. Just this morning, a man was shot and killed on the subway trains in the city. That’s the third one so far this year. People are afraid to go on the subway. They think they suggestion pricing, who’s going to force them on the subway where we’re

1:32 going to see? So he’s pessimistic assessment, unfortunately, so as my and I think the cops are working hard, quite probly, but the police department is way short for police offices. It’s been hemorrhaging police offices actually since the death of Georgia Flood. They can’t recruit enough officers. People don’t want to become a cop these days. They know the restrictions,

1:58 they know the fact that the police officers have been demonized and and and Middle five really throughout the country, but certainly in New York as well. They see the assault club police offices. You know, there’s there’s no consequences to it. So it’s a bad time. And you know, there’s some some a little bit of the hope.

2:20 Speaker 3 Murders are down.

2:21 Speaker 2 Shootings are down, and that’s obviously a good thing, but robberies and assault, those sorts of things, and of course the quality of the life in New York has really deteriorated.

2:32 Speaker 3 Scooters are everywhere, they’re on the sidewalks.

2:36 Speaker 2 They’re going through red red life. You have to look three hundred and sixty degrees before you cross the street, quite and it’s a it’s a dangerous undertaking. So I’m unfortunately, I’m pessimistic about the the certainly the short term situation as far as New York is concerned.

2:57 Speaker 1 You know, I walk around at night day, and you were in Manhattan for a long time. I’ll tell you sometimes after dark, I’m scared walking around at night, and a lot of people feel that way. And last week we interviewed the governor and I’m glad that she has now an apartment in Manhattan, and I said to her, well, Governor,

3:24 don’t don’t believe what your people are telling you that arrests are down and arrest are up. You know, talk to some of your constituents that are walking around on the East Side.

3:36 Speaker 2 They’re absolutely right. There’s a feeling of anxiety of people feel unstakee You can quote numbers, but that feeling is still very much there. You know, you have these demonstrations here, these pro Palestinian demonstrations that I think closely getting out of control oftentimes, and the city just agreed to a content degree which is at absolutely ludicrous. It ties the

4:02 hands of police officers trying to police demonstrations. It puts in such person oversight the committee. It ends the practice of kettling. Is this call, which is a plaint of term, to sort of move demonstrators into a particular area if you want to arrest them.

4:22 Speaker 3 I have no idea why.

4:24 Speaker 2 They did that. The mayor said it was a bad idea, but he signed it anyway because the lawyers told him to do it. That’s not leadership, that’s not what you’re supposed to do. But that’s that’s where we are. That’s where we are, just making it more difficult to be a police officer. Maybe probably the most difficult time has

4:43 ever been.

4:45 Speaker 1 It is I am worried, and I worried, not necessarily about myself. I worry about my kids and my wife walking around. And I’ll tell you the other thing that Governor Hockel has done that I did disagreed with. If if I’m walking up to trying to go to a restaurant on the East Side, and I have a carry permit,

5:11 but if I’m going to a restaurant that serves liquor than all of them do, I’m not allowed to carry my gun in the in the restaurant. I mean, what kind of I mean, what say you about that?

5:26 Speaker 3 That’s a bad idea.

5:27 Speaker 2 Absolutely, it’s a bad idea.

5:28 Speaker 3 People who have carried have been vented.

5:31 Speaker 2 Uh you know, I have been trained. Why not Why shouldn’t they be allowed to carry him into places where you know, God forbid something something could happen and would It makes no sense at all, and.

5:44 Speaker 1 Right we’re not allowed to carry it in church where we want to protect our parishioners.

5:50 Speaker 2 Yeah, if you remember, it was an incident in Texas a few years ago where a shooter came into a church and somebody who was on there was able to eliminate the threat. So it is this tony effort of a gun control which makes no sense. Obviously the criminals are not going to obey that is that Tony is

6:14 a license carrying individual is caught with a weapon, will they get a summons or fine? So it’s you know, it’s silly stuff. We need, that is people who want to carry a weapon to be out there, to be on the street and not not just to be you know, a victim in any doug that that comes along. We

6:41 don’t want to see any indiscriminate shooting, and quite frankly, you don’t. You don’t see that from license gut gut holders. You know, they they talked about it. It’s a threat. You know, I’ve been I’ve been policing a long time.

6:54 Never see that. You hardly see any incident where a license gun holder has how abuse they the authority that they have. So, yeah, you should be able to go where you want to go based on your training and the fact that you can permit it.

7:15 Speaker 1 Yeah, only forty years Ray Kelly, Uh yeah, right right, anything else a commissioner twelve years you were commissioner, if not longer. Anything else you want to get off your chest.

7:31 Speaker 2 Well, I think you know the migrants situation. The fifty three million dollars going to myrants, which is only by the way, a fee, a license fee or being paid to the company that’s going to distribute the money. They’re estimates that this money going to migrants here could be over two billion dollars from the City of New York.

7:54 I mean, this is a ludicrous. When are we’re going to say no, when there’s this mayor going to say enough is enough? And he’s still concerns about his political career. You know, these migrants should be ending up in the Delaware so like that, Uh, you know, when when are we going to come to our senses and take this

8:16 problem my attitude problem.

8:19 Speaker 1 Yes, it’s a national problem that’s been created by the federal government. And my attitude is we should feed and take care of the homeless veterans and the poor Americans before we worry about, uh, the people from Africa or or South America. We should take care of them there, not necessarily here. Thank you Ray Kelly, and thank you

8:43 for and thank you for everything you’ve done for New York. Thank you for everything you’ve done for America. And we’ll catch up again real.

8:50 Speaker 2 Sir, Johnya terrific. Thanks very much thanke care. Thank you