200 gangs in control of Haiti

0:00 Speaker 1 And joining us as someone who knows Haiti very well. The former NYPD commissioner, Our dear friend, Ray Kelly, Commissioner Kelly, we love having you here on the show, my friend. What’s going on with this case and what’s going on with Haiti?

0:14 Speaker 2 Well, Haiti is a basket case, there’s no question about it. Force country in the Western Hemisphere that has no functioning government. The president was assassinated in twenty nineteen, nobody has replaced them. Two hundred gangs, at least two hundred gangs are basically ruling the country. So something has to be done and there is a little bit of light at the end

0:41 of the tunnel. Just this past weekend, Kenya of the Kenya is the country of course in East Africa has agreed to seriously consider sending one thousand police officers to say Haiti. This is the only country so far that has even spoken about going to eighty so hopefully that will entice other countries to get involved. Our State Department

1:09 is looking for a multi nationally national passport that is funded by the United Nations. Now there is no resolution in the UN to do that, but that’s what that’s what we’re as a country trying to do so they need all the help they can get. I don’t know if the Kenyans can do it, and of course the

1:31 Canyans can’t do it. I certainly hope it does not fall back onto the US ray.

1:36 Speaker 3 You know, the Kenyans, the Haitians can’t do it, so somebody has to do it. Otherwise those people are suffering and it’s even worse. You know, it’s just bad. Something has to happen.

1:50 Speaker 2 Absolutely, there’s been over one thousand kidnappings so far this year. Wow about wow? Want more? I mean, the you know, the the murder rate is extremely high. Voguo is a real fact of life in Haiti, and it really is sort of negative spiritualism that blames any problem on evil spirit.

2:16 You know, it’s very difficult to make progress there.

2:19 Speaker 1 You know, it’s amazing too.

2:20 Speaker 4 I mean you think about, you know what New Yorkers rare. You know what New Yorkers should look at that all these city council people that want to defund the police, that that those people they’re voting for them. Give me a break that you know, you’re going to end up being like Haiti in New York City if it goes

2:38 any further.

2:41 Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, I mean I think we’re far away from that, but certainly the potential is something bad happening in New York is is right up there. So as I say, this is I’m the hope. I’ll see what what happens.

2:56 But they are in desperate shape of kidnapping. Human mentioned the kidnapping of the nurse and her son. I tent detectives to Haiti try to teach him how to investigate the kidnapping, and we did, we did some of that, but it certainly has did not catch on. And that’s now several years ago. So they are they’re totally ill

3:21 equipped to investigate kidnappings. Basically, in anytime there is a kidnapping, Uh, somebody is paying. You know, they’re not paying the full a month that they’re asking for, but that is a thriving business, uh in this very much afflicted country.

3:40 Speaker 3 Wow.

3:40 Speaker 1 Really scary. And by the way, they’re asking for a million in this case too is what they’re asking. This is scary. Ray.

3:45 Speaker 3 Thank you, Thank you, Ray Kelly. And you did a great job when when you were police commissioner in New York was the safest city in the in the world. Thank you so much.

3:55 Speaker 2 Thank you, thank you John