Migrants still number #1 problem in New York.

0:00 Speaker 1 With us today is former Governor David Patterson to tell us what the heck is going on in New York City, New York State, the world. Governor Pattison, A lot of people respect your point of view. Tell us what you feel like this Sunday.

0:16 Speaker 2 This week, John Keyshant Sewell, who was getting high marks from everybody, abruptly resigned as Police Commissioner of New York City. She’s selected by Mayor Adams about a year and a half ago. That’s one of the shortest terms a police commissioner ever had. And I will say that I could see Commissioner Seule as head of law enforcement agencies. I

0:43 can see her as an attorney general’s But I’m just saying that I could see her in any capacity. She has a great deal of dignity and very direct when she answers questions. However, I think that there’s this issue that the public servants have to go through that the private sector doesn’t, which is that when there’s a high

1:06 profile resignation, all of a sudden, it becomes a kind of like a plebiscite on how Mayor Adams is doing. And what I want to say in that respect is Mayor Adams is thought to be a real micromanager, like Governor Cuomo another real micromanager. When I was governor, I was not a micromanager. I put people in charge of

1:29 agencies and basically listened to them. And then there was a situation where I thought I might have to lay off some workers. So I instructed the heads of my agencies to give me a list of the workers that could be laid off in the difficult financial crisis of you know, back at that time. One of the agency’s heads,

1:50 who is a former elected official, in a conference call with the others, staid, don’t submit any name on the list. The governors in political trouble and all kinds of trouble right now. He can’t do anything to you, and there’s no reason anybody needs to be laid off at that particular Todd when that got I fired the individual. When

2:14 I fired the individual, he actually had members of the body of government get up and have a press conference asking him to be reinstated. And then they went to Governor Andrew cmo who is now governor elected at that point, and asked would he take a person, And Governor Culomo said, if the person was disloyal to the governor, why would

2:39 I take them? So what I’m really trying to say, John by that is that you know that their decisions you make as the head of a major company and decisions people make, and he can’t always want to talk about why that happens. It might not even really be the fault of the person who’s being let go.

2:57 Speaker 1 So well, I know very well she is a great lady. She worked very hard her people, the police officers over a year and a half time that she’s been in New York. Her officers, her rank and file, had a lot of respect for her because finally they felt there was somebody watching their back. And the problem, I think,

3:29 my opinion was the problem was she felt that somebody was not watching her back in the rest of the administration.

3:38 Speaker 2 What say you, well, it listen. That’s how she feels. I’m sure she’s entitled to it. I think that the mayor has a great amount of respect for her as well. It’s why he chose her in the first place. But you know, sometimes you can have greatness among people, but part of their greatness is that they do things a

4:00 certain way. So when you put them together, as great as they are individually, it doesn’t add up to a whole. In other words, they don’t do that well together. And I think that the administration’s the view of the administration from the outside shouldn’t change because they rearrange personnel, even if in this case, one of the people who is

4:25 leaving has an outstanding resume, and I think we’ll be hearing from her for years and years.

4:34 Speaker 1 I agree with you, she is a terrific person. She is a people person, She has knowledge of the police department, and I think it’s a big less for New York.

4:50 Speaker 2 Yeah, Now, what.

4:52 Speaker 1 Else would you like to talk about this Sunday morning.

4:55 Speaker 2 Well, we had another incident on the subway this week. Somebody got up and started yelling at the passengers, yelled at one particular man who took exception to being yelled at, and then punched his girlfriend in the face, and the man took out a knife and stabbed him and he did not survive that attack. This particular case, I think

5:20 is going to be easier to discharge than the case involving mister Penny, who is under indictment right now, because there was a much stronger act in furtherance of the crime. In other words, you can yell at people, and you’re assaulting them verbally. But he actually punched another human being in the face, and rather than waiting to see what

5:44 the next action was, this person reacted. And so I don’t expect that charges would be brought against him. And I thought it was interesting that the media was making a big deal over the fact that they let him out without bail. I keep repeating this, I keep saying until someone listens to me, bail does not Bail is

6:06 not related to the crime it’s committed. It is related, under the sixth Amendment, to getting the defendant to appear at trial. This guy is not going anywhere. He thought he did the right thing, So of course they would let him out without bail because he’s not going to flee the state now. But when the trial occurs, I

6:28 doubt I doubt that they will bring charges against him. In the case of mister Penny, I think he’ll be acquitted. I was a little surprised that grand jury indicted him, But in his particular case, it’s a little different because the troublemaker on the subway in that instance yelled at people.

6:49 I think he threw a paper cup and hit somebody with it. Or something like that, which, by the way, is do we have the details?

6:55 Speaker 1 Do we have the details head on what basis and jury indicted the marine?

7:03 Speaker 2 No, and that will come out. I think in the next couple of weeks. Be very interesting to hear that, because you know this, everyone has something to say in situations like this, and people with political motives always have something to say with facts that support their point of view.

7:24 But that’s a good admonition, John, we really should wait and hear what the indictment is all about. But in that particular case, I just think that it isn’t as open and shut as the most recent one.

7:41 Speaker 1 Yes, I agree with you. Well, Governor Pattison. Thank you so much for coming on this Sunday morning. People do respect a great deal of your opinion, and you make a big difference in New York City, New York State, and the whole region and the country because of who you are. Thank you so much.

8:00 Speaker 2 Thank You’s that