Will the state budget make us safer?

0:00 Speaker 1 What is today is Goverminor David Pattison. One smart guy, one good friend, one fair minded person with common sense. Governor Patterson, you make news almost every Sunday. What’s on today’s discussion on what the heck is going on? And why can’t it be better?

0:20 Speaker 2 Well, if you are president of the United States and it’s an election year, everything you do is going to impact the election. And in this case, since both former President Trump and current President Biden, we know they’re going to run against each other, it probably goes both ways.

0:41 But the reason I bring it up is that this refusal of President Biden to send arms to Israel at a time when they are, you know, still reeling from what happened to them nearly eight months ago. I see it as something that’s going to impact the twenty four election because President Biden could not have made that decision

1:05 unless he thinks that the electorate is going to agree with him. I don’t think that’s what’s going to happen. I think that, you know, if you just cast out the protesters and the kids on campus and really some mean spirited people who were behind a lot of that, you’re going to find that I think most Americans by

1:27 a pretty good margin, are going to support Israel and think they should get the arms that they need. And I’m just I just don’t understand why he’d make a decision at that point, because it’s going to become an issue when the debates come up and when the election occurs six months from.

1:47 Speaker 1 Now, Governor, I a lot of us don’t understand what some of the things that President Biden is doing. For instance, the price of oil is so high right now and creates higher prices for food because he hasn’t used the Air Force and the Navy to take care of opening up the Red Sea in the Suez Canal. I just

2:07 can’t figure it out. Why not?

2:09 Speaker 2 And you said the other day on Cats at Night that if he did that, the oil prices would come down immediately.

2:17 Speaker 1 Within thirty days.

2:18 Speaker 2 Absolutely, so, I again, I have no idea why he would persist in using the same policies that caused inflation to go up anyway. And right now, you know by the end of the year inflationent inflation is going to be about four four four point five percent. They wanted it at two percent. It’s not going to be there.

2:41 Once again, that’s going to be an issue. When people go to the polls, it’s going to be a little different than what happened four years ago, when I really thought that Biden won because he looked reasonable, which was how he was always considered to be a reasonable person.

2:57 I don’t think anybody thought that he was one of the going to be one of the great leaders of the world. But at that point, in the middle of the pandemic, I think people thought it’s time for a change.

3:11 But what we might see in November is sort of the reverse of that, in that there are so many issues where President Biden is not perceived to have delivered that much that people might just think they need to change again.

3:25 Speaker 1 Understood. The other thing has been happening on campuses. And you went to Columbia, did you?

3:32 Speaker 2 Yes, I went to Columbia.

3:34 Speaker 1 Are you still admitting it? Yes? All right, now that you’re admitting it in I think so many kids that went to Columbia. Maybe there was two hundred three hundred protesters as students, Maybe there was another two hundred three hundred as outside agitators. But the thousands of kids that are normal graduates, are normal students of Columbia, I think they’re being did it unfair by

4:01 not being allowed to graduate in a normal matter and to have those memories for the rest of their lives.

4:07 Speaker 2 It’s a shame. You go there. You know, I was there for four years, and you know, and then you know, we all graduated, and it’s really an honor to have attended such a great university and to get a degree from there. But at the same time, you’ve got this situation where they’re going to try to have the different

4:33 schools have their graduations, in other words, the different departments at Columbia, but it’s not going to be the same. It’s always a big graduation, they always have a well known speaker, and it’s always a real event, usually in the middle of May of every year, and it’s just not going to happen. It’s very sad because the actions

4:53 of a few and I’m not complaining about their protesting. I’m complaining about the fact that there there’s no cooperation when they were asked to end the protests and get back to the dialogue on campus, which everybody has a right to express their opinion. But this got really bad, really quickly. And I just can’t believe that there are

5:19 actually some elected officials that are criticizing the police for going in and using heavy weapons. Heavy weapons is the way to disperse the crowd without a whole lot of fights. There were no fights, no one got hurt, but they still can’t resist criticizing the police. And I’ve criticized the police at times, but not automatically, just because they take

5:40 an action that probably spared a disastrous situation if.

5:45 Speaker 1 They hadn’t understood. And a lot of those kids thanked. I understand from Chief Shawl that was on our show a couple of weeks ago, a week ago, that a lot of those kids that were in the dorms, in the dorms, normal kids, thanked the NYPD for liberating next campus.

6:07 Speaker 2 It was becoming. Uh, it was at the tipping point. You know, they were good, they were there was probably going to be some internal strife because the students who were there were afraid, and then the ones who were occupying the building weren’t letting anyone in and were challenging, Uh, you know, the school officials. I’m just glad the whole

6:30 thing ended without any serious duress.

6:33 Speaker 1 Uh. Governor Patterson, Uh, I understand some of the unions that have workers at Columbia are ready to sue because they their workers don’t feel safe.

6:46 Speaker 2 Well, there were two employees in Hamilton Hall. Now there were a couple of there were a couple of workers who actually joined the protests at Hamilton Hall, but there were two workers there who were actually held against their will for a while and finally got out, and they were both fearing for their lives because you see, once

7:08 there’s kind of a mob activity, you have a mob mentality. And you know that’s why in the Old West you see these hangings because people thought someone did something. They didn’t try them, they just took them and hung them.

7:20 And it was getting that way, believe it or not, on one of the more esteemed campuses in this country, one that I was so excited when I got accepted to go to school there and really cast a pall over the reputation of the school and the serious issues that could have been discussed without a protest leading to that

7:45 kind of violence against the building and against some people were there as well.

7:53 Speaker 1 Governor were all time was almost up. Anything else you want to tell New York is this week?

8:00 Speaker 2 Well, I think as we move forward right here in New York State, it looks to me like the legislature and the governor actually worked together this time and passed a budget that is yielding some positive opportunities for people, and I hope they can continue that cooperation.

8:22 Speaker 1 Thank you so much, Governor David Pattison, and God bless you, and God bless New York, and I hope New York survives, and God bless a Marsa. Thank you so much.

8:31 Speaker 2 Here here to that, John