National Guard in the subways

0:00 Speaker 1 With us today is Goleman and David Pattison. He’s with us every Sunday morning. Tell us what the heck is going on in our city, a state, a country. Governor Patterson, you’re one of the common sense individuals. I know.

0:14 Speaker 1 It’s not about Democrats, not about Republicans, it’s common sense. What’s going on that you are concerned about?

0:24 Speaker 2 Well, what I would first talk about, John, is what I’m not concerned about. And it is very surprising and at the same time tantalizing situation where Governor Kathy Hogel has stated that she wants to bring in members of the National Guard to help come bat crime on the subway. Now, my first reaction to that is that there’s a difference

0:51 between the National Guard because they are trained completely differently than New York City transit police, and you wouldn’t want an incident where perhaps, you know, one of them would just not be able to follow the protocol and it would cause a whole different, you know situation, you know, an incident that would come up that would fall back

1:10 on the mayor, since most people in the city think he runs the transit system. But on our show, I believe it was Thursday night we got to talk to Michael Kemper, who was, of course the head of the Transit Police, and he said that all of the National Guard people come in will be working under the police department,

1:31 and many are of them that they’re going to send are actually policemen themselves. So I was really relieved to hear that because I had a real concern about what that could become. And I think this is demonstrating a kind of evolution of a leader. When Governor Hokle ran for reelection, I don’t think she totally realized how things

1:55 can go south on you, particularly in New York City, and she had a twenty twenty five point lead in the polls and all of a sudden it was five percent and she kind of had to rally and to save herself. But now she’s playing with the House’s money and has decided she’s going to go right after. This

2:10 crime issue in the subway has the full support of Mayor Adams.

2:13 Speaker 1 Well, guys, you know, Governor I spoke to Governor Hokeel two weeks ago when she uh uh said to us that said to me that she lives in the Upper East Side there during the week sometimes, uh And then I said to her, go out there and talk to some of your constituents. Don’t necessarily believe you’re you’re the

2:35 people that report to you. I know you, Me and you have always had a discussion that some of the people that used to report to you and talk to you, they didn’t always tell you the way it was.

2:48 Speaker 2 No, they tell you their version of what you want to do, and you don’t really always have a way of checking to make sure they know what they’re talking about. And well, and.

2:58 Speaker 1 Two weeks ago with Governor Hokell some maybe we can we could take some some you know, uh credit for saying go out there and talk to people because they’re scared to walk around, they’re scared to take the subway.

3:10 Speaker 2 And I think that’s the thing. Or you know that as you know, I write so back and forth when we do the station, and a lot of the conversations I have or with people I don’t even know, you know, who are down there recognize me and they tell me what their concerns are and that kind of thing. So

3:27 I think you couldn’t have given her better advice than actually I think or you and I need to do now send her a bill.

3:37 Speaker 1 Well, when you have when you have a lunch or dinner with the governor usually costs us.

3:44 Speaker 2 Money, yes, exactly. Otherwise, I think that it was very interesting that the State of the Union addressed by President Biden. Whether you like him or you don’t like him, he had a lot.

4:00 Speaker 1 Of energy last week.

4:02 Speaker 2 He had a lot of energy, fire in the belly last night, and it kind of reminded me of the first debate he had with Donald Trump, where Eve and I took it for granted that the President Trump was going to, you know, wipe up the floor with him, and he really came after Trump. So we now know

4:18 that if you get him kicked off, that’s when he really starts working. And you know, I thought he made some, yeah, some really good points on his end of it. And it’s so interesting because earlier that evening, if you remember, we interviewed Ariy Fleischer, who had been Press secretary you know, with Trump and with Bush and other people, and he said,

4:41 the first thing he’s got to do is to come and get his base. So he knew that everyone in the room is supporting the issues that have gone on in the Ukraine. So he starts with the Ukraine. No one’s going to be against support for the Ukraine. Then he moves from there. It’s an anti Putin and rampage.

5:01 He went on for ten to fifty minutes, and no one’s going to bother him about that. So by the time he gets to the issues like the border. And even when he issued the tragic death of the young woman in Georgia, he mentioned her by name, he talked about the family. So they really set that speech up

5:24 exactly the way Fleischer told us before it took place. They went right through his playbook, and he really came off very well. Now it’s you know, you can campaign in poetry, but you have to execute in prose. And he’s going to have to make some things happen if he wants to stay on for a second term.

5:46 Speaker 1 Understood, Now, so many other problems. We talked about, the crime in the subways and the National Guard, We talked about the Washington What else is on your mind this Sunday morning?

6:05 Speaker 2 Well, I think right now we’re really about to get into the campaign season. In other words, Nikki Haley, the governor of South Carolina, she did a good job campaign, but she was up against an immovable object in President Trump.

6:24 So she’s out. Trump is clearly going to be the nominee for the Republican Party. Biden did pretty well in some of those states where they thought the no vote could be the difference between the election in November, but he pretty much won all of those. So now we’re really going to have about eight months to hear what

6:43 these two men have to say and which one of them is going to demonstrate that they can run the country. And I think it’s going to be really more a battle of the issues as opposed to the personalities, which is what it’s been up to this point. And I think that’s what American voters really want to see.

7:02 Speaker 1 They want to agree be great. That’s why I am glad that the Supreme Court voted nine to zero on the nonsense going on in the various states trying to get take a next president off. I’ve always said, let the voters decided November, and hey, what about the nonsense in Georgia, in Washington.

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7:22 Speaker 1 And you know, creating a creating a reason to indict? What do you say about that?

7:31 Speaker 2 Sure, there are definitely times when you need to because it appears that someone’s done something, but in this particular situation, it would really hurt I think the country for a candidate to be kicked off the ballot unless they were convicted of a crime, and there won’t be time to him to get convicted of a crime by November. I

7:56 didn’t vote from in twenty sixteen, I didn’t vote from in twenty twenty, and I look forward to not voting for him in twenty twenty four. But I think he should be on the ballot so people can make that choice.

8:07 Speaker 1 I agree with you. Let them stall everything till after election day. Let a one hundred and seventy million people are going to vote, Let them vote, and whatever happens happens. Why not Thank you, David Pattison, and we’ll catch up with genuine each other real soon.

8:25 Speaker 2 Okay, take care of Thank you.