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0:00 Speaker 1 Sunday morning with US Governor David Pattison with us every Sunday morning, and he gives us a lot of wisdom. Governor, what say you this Sunday morning? It looks like I’m praying that America comes together. I’m praying that New York comes back to sanity. But it’s your quote.

0:20 Speaker 2 Well, John, we are concluding the second week since the election, and President Trump, being the nonconformist that he is, did not go to Mari Lago and sun himself for a couple of weeks. He’s gotten right to work with his appointments and the policy changes that he wants to make.

0:39 And I had a thought he was. He underwent and I’m not saying that he’s innocent or guilty of these situations, but he underwent years of investigation and accusation and just harrowing attempts by law enforcement and other sources to silence him.

1:01 And I think we’re seeing a little bit of a reaction to that because some of his nominees that are going to have to pass muster with the United States Senate have had their own issues, particularly his nominee for Attorney General, Matt Gates, and perhaps even Robert F. Kennedy, who has a lot of opinions but not great experience

1:28 in the healthcare situation, He knowing that they have gone through some of what he’s gone through might be a reason for that. But what I’m hoping that he is going to do once he takes care of that, is to really start thinking about bringing the country together. He’s in a very unique position. He is the only person

1:49 in the history of this country who was elected president and not consecutively but separately. The Grover Cleveland was the one the presidency in eighteen eighty four, he lost it to Chester Arthur in eighteen eighty eight, and he comes back in eighteen ninety two and wins again. Well, President Trump has done the same thing. And I think in

2:15 this very special quadrennial period where he will get to set presumably policy, he will think about trying to find ways to get people in this country to live together, to respect each other, to work together, and to disagree without being disagreeable.

2:35 Speaker 1 I’ll tell you one thing, Governor, is that I think Trump, by losing the twenty twenty got a tremendous education for twenty twenty four.

2:48 Speaker 2 What say you, Yes, it did appear that when he got elected in twenty twenty, it was kind of like, Okay, now I got elected president, Now what do I do?

2:58 Speaker 1 In twenty six seven, it.

3:01 Speaker 2 Wasn’t like running a big business or something like that. And you saw perhaps some appointments that he probably could have thought over a little more before he did it. But now maybe that’s the reason he’s hitting the ground running so quickly, because he wants to get everything in order, and if there are any mistakes, he wants to clear

3:19 them up by January twentieth. And now having the experience of knowing what can go wrong when you are the head of the greatest country in the world, he can make attempts to change it. Now. I’m not talking about his ideological position. I’m talking about his management capacity.

3:41 Speaker 1 I agree with you, and I think the other thing he’s doing he realizes he can’t trust the deep spate state. He realizes he can’t trust the generals a depentagon to do the right thing necessarily. And I think he’s making appointments based on avoiding the deep state.

4:03 Speaker 2 John I was talking to him at the Alfrety Smith dinner and I gave him an instance where and he knew the person that did this where in my administration when I was governor, there was a movement by some people who worked under me to hire a lobbyist to lobby me on an issue that they didn’t like the

4:22 position I’d taken on, even though I had told them I was not going to reverse my position and Trump the look on his face, he said, well, I had about a hundred situations like that that you’ll never even know about.

4:38 Speaker 1 And he’s got double cross so much in Washington, it’s unbelievable.

4:43 Speaker 2 Yeah. And because the nature and size of the government and all of the you know, different areas you have to go through is so immense that unless you have four or five people under you who were ruling with an iron hand, and I I mean that this has to happen on the presidential level. We’ve had some wonderful

5:05 presidents who were, you know, very engaging, but their officers were run very tightly, principally Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton, who were able to do that.

5:16 Speaker 1 I tell you a lot of people are still Bill Clinton Democrats. And what more common sense? I understand that in the state Senate in New York, uh, they the Republicans won one and is one more in dispute. What does that mean? Does do the state Senate still has override abilities to the governor.

5:40 Speaker 2 They they have had a veto proof majority, they may lose it. And the biggest beneficiary of that would not be the Republicans. It would be the governor Kathy Hokeel, who if you remember, they overrode her judicial appointment right in the beginning of of I guess it was twenty twenty three when that happened. And there is a problem

6:08 when you have a video proof majority in the Assembly and the Senate, and it’s difficult for the governor, but I think it will also open the door for a better relationship between the governor and the minority party, which is Republicans.

6:25 Speaker 1 Understood, Well, thank you Governor Patterson for coming on this Sunday morning, and we’ll catch up again soon.

6:33 Speaker 2 Well, John, I sure hope so